Comments on: Jay Severin puts himself on the White House’s enemies list http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/ Keeping an eye (and ear) on Jay Severin Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:16:51 +0000 hourly 1 By: Chris Smith http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3879 Chris Smith Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:18:17 +0000 http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/#comment-3879 "if you think your neighbor is anti-Obama and you want us to keep an eye on them, send us an e-mail." looks like the White House doesn't actually have to say it now do they? and they do say "send it to". they are not asking you to send any questions you may have to them...you are forwarding someone else's emails and all the adresses that go along with it! And why are forwarded emails now getting unsolicited emails from the White House? if the government wants to tap my phone while i make a call to the middle east (which i do not do) let them-but do not collect my info or decide healthcare for me-thanks. “if you think your neighbor is anti-Obama and you want us to keep an eye on them, send us an e-mail.”
looks like the White House doesn’t actually have to say it now do they? and they do say “send it to”. they are not asking you to send any questions you may have to them…you are forwarding someone else’s emails and all the adresses that go along with it! And why are forwarded emails now getting unsolicited emails from the White House?
if the government wants to tap my phone while i make a call to the middle east (which i do not do) let them-but do not collect my info or decide healthcare for me-thanks.

]]> By: really http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3877 really Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:02:26 +0000 http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/#comment-3877 You're completely missing the point. The only reason why it was yanked was because people caught on to what they were trying to do. The gov't can't run the post office or something as simple as "cash for clunker's". And yes I do know that emails get forwarded all the time. But most of the time it's not to a federal gov't web site. I really don't see how anyone could even agree with this. And I think that anyone who condones this type of behavior could be classified; in your words if I may, "pathetically ignorant". You’re completely missing the point. The only reason why it was yanked was because people caught on to what they were trying to do. The gov’t can’t run the post office or something as simple as “cash for clunker’s”. And yes I do know that emails get forwarded all the time. But most of the time it’s not to a federal gov’t web site. I really don’t see how anyone could even agree with this. And I think that anyone who condones this type of behavior could be classified; in your words if I may, “pathetically ignorant”.

]]> By: DavidFromBrighton http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3870 DavidFromBrighton Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:31:44 +0000 http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/#comment-3870 The rule of thumb for e-mail has always been "if you don't want it appearing on the front page of the New York Times, don't send the e-mail." E-mail gets unknowingly forwarded all the time and anyone who doesn't already know this is pathetically ignorant. If the White House had put out a message saying "if you know people who disagree with our policies, send us their e-mail addresses," that would have been a bad move. But that's not what they did. They said -- albeit clumsily -- "if you see a bunch of nonsense on the Internet, send us a copy." Anyway, they pulled the plug on the program so it should be moot at this point. The rule of thumb for e-mail has always been “if you don’t want it appearing on the front page of the New York Times, don’t send the e-mail.” E-mail gets unknowingly forwarded all the time and anyone who doesn’t already know this is pathetically ignorant.

If the White House had put out a message saying “if you know people who disagree with our policies, send us their e-mail addresses,” that would have been a bad move. But that’s not what they did. They said — albeit clumsily — “if you see a bunch of nonsense on the Internet, send us a copy.” Anyway, they pulled the plug on the program so it should be moot at this point.

]]> By: really http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3862 really Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:43:51 +0000 http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/#comment-3862 That's exactly what I am talking about. I am not talking about the ones forwarding the email. I am talking about the people who have their email unknowingly forwarded to the whitehouse...that is insane! You actually think that it's OK for you to forward an email to the gov't for what purpose? Is this the community police that our dear overlord spoke of during the campaign? I have never in my lifetime heard of the gov't advertising to do something like this. Unacceptable and people are starting to wake up. That’s exactly what I am talking about. I am not talking about the ones forwarding the email. I am talking about the people who have their email unknowingly forwarded to the whitehouse…that is insane! You actually think that it’s OK for you to forward an email to the gov’t for what purpose? Is this the community police that our dear overlord spoke of during the campaign? I have never in my lifetime heard of the gov’t advertising to do something like this. Unacceptable and people are starting to wake up.

]]> By: DavidFromBrighton http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3830 DavidFromBrighton Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:26:09 +0000 http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/#comment-3830 But Really, there has never been anything preventing me from forwarding an e-mail from anyone to anyone, including a government address. And in context, it's pretty clear that what the White House really wanted was the content of the e-mail and perhaps the identity of the original author, not the identities of the individuals who passed the e-mail along. But Really, there has never been anything preventing me from forwarding an e-mail from anyone to anyone, including a government address. And in context, it’s pretty clear that what the White House really wanted was the content of the e-mail and perhaps the identity of the original author, not the identities of the individuals who passed the e-mail along.

]]> By: really http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3828 really Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:35:35 +0000 http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/#comment-3828 "How is it different from saying something like “to express your views, e-mail the President or your Congressional representatives?” It's different because your example is aboout an individual knowingly expressing their views, not about someone unknowingly having their eamil forwarded to a gov't database...now do you see the difference? This to me is a violation of privacy. “How is it different from saying something like “to express your views, e-mail the President or your Congressional representatives?”

It’s different because your example is aboout an individual knowingly expressing their views, not about someone unknowingly having their eamil forwarded to a gov’t database…now do you see the difference?

This to me is a violation of privacy.

]]> By: DavidFromBrighton http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3806 DavidFromBrighton Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:40:35 +0000 http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/#comment-3806 Really, I don't. How is it different from saying something like "to express your views, e-mail the President or your Congressional representatives?" People are making it sound like they're saying "if you think your neighbor is anti-Obama and you want us to keep an eye on them, send us an e-mail." (And I'm sure that plenty of people have sent anti-neighbor e-mail, unsolicited, to this and previous administrations.) Really, I don’t. How is it different from saying something like “to express your views, e-mail the President or your Congressional representatives?”

People are making it sound like they’re saying “if you think your neighbor is anti-Obama and you want us to keep an eye on them, send us an e-mail.” (And I’m sure that plenty of people have sent anti-neighbor e-mail, unsolicited, to this and previous administrations.)

]]> By: really http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3805 really Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:33:42 +0000 http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/#comment-3805 You honestly see no problem with this statement, "If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov." You honestly see no problem with this statement, “If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.”

]]> By: DavidFromBrighton http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3764 DavidFromBrighton Tue, 18 Aug 2009 01:17:11 +0000 http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/#comment-3764 Update: it seems that flag@whitehouse.gov has been killed. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_e_mail Update: it seems that flag@whitehouse.gov has been killed. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_e_mail

]]> By: meah http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3649 meah Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:18:36 +0000 http://severinwatch.com/2009/08/09/jay-severin-puts-himself-on-the-white-houses-enemies-list/#comment-3649 I am with Linda. Though I am a veteran health care professional and want to be engaged in the "debate", I can no longer listen. I do not have cable news in my home, and do not listen to talk radio regularly, one cannot get away from such shockingly ignorant comments as Sarah Palin's which are beamed across the nation. in a heartbeat.. It is despicable that the health care reform issue has been commandeered by talk show hosts who neither know nor care what is really going on in Er', hospitals, nursing homes i.e. the challanges being met by workers and patient's a like. The end-of life provision is really a gift to person's who want to control their own care at end of life. It is being used already by the Living Will empowers people and is a source of comfort, yet right wingers have used it as tool for hate to their own detriment. I never knew that so many US citizens were so blatantly unhappy and brain-washed. I fear for the many who are in the grip of propagandists. I am with Linda. Though I am a veteran health care professional and want to be engaged in the “debate”, I can no longer listen. I do not have cable news in my home, and do not listen to talk radio regularly, one cannot get away from such shockingly ignorant comments as Sarah Palin’s which are beamed across the nation. in a heartbeat.. It is despicable that the health care reform issue has been commandeered by talk show hosts who neither know nor care what is really going on in Er’, hospitals, nursing homes i.e. the challanges being met by workers and patient’s a like. The end-of life provision is really a gift to person’s who want to control their own care at end of life. It is being used already by the Living Will empowers people and is a source of comfort, yet right wingers have used it as tool for hate to their own detriment. I never knew that so many US citizens were so blatantly unhappy and brain-washed. I fear for the many who are in the grip of propagandists.

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